The economist billionaires fear: this is how we get a wealth tax
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Introduction to Zucman
- The host presents Gabriel Zucman as a leading economist on inequality, billionaire taxation, and practical wealth tax design, highlighting his book We Need to Tax Billionaires.
- Zucman says his work focuses on inequality, taxation, the super rich, multinational tax avoidance, and fixing systems that allow extreme wealth and power to grow.
- He argues billionaire wealth has surged dramatically, including a 40% increase globally over two years, creating major political and democratic consequences.
Path Into Inequality Research
- Zucman says living in the San Francisco Bay Area exposed him to extreme inequality between tech billionaires and widespread homelessness, which pushed him toward studying inequality.
- Trump’s 2016 election reinforced his view that mainstream politics had failed to address rising inequality with practical and ambitious solutions.
- He moved from measuring inequality toward policy work focused on how to tax billionaires effectively, using historical and international evidence.
Inequality in Economics
- Zucman agrees that inequality has often been marginal in academic economics, especially during the Cold War era when efficiency dominated the field.
- He argues that classical economists were deeply concerned with distribution, and that inequality has gradually returned to the center of economics after the Cold War.
- He credits Tony Atkinson and the British empirical social science tradition with reviving long-run measurement of income and wealth concentration.
- His advice to students who want to study inequality is to do it and help expand the field from within academia.
Public Role of Researchers
- Zucman sees public engagement as part of social science: researchers should not only establish facts but also disseminate them and propose solutions.
- He says findings about tax evasion and effective tax rates are vital democratic information and should not remain confined to experts.
- He rejects a technocratic approach, arguing that researchers should feed democratic debate while citizens decide through deliberation and elections.
- He believes defending and explaining policy proposals is part of a researcher’s job when those proposals address documented problems.
The Zucman Tax
- Zucman explains that the proposal is not simply recreating France’s old wealth tax but creating a new principle: the extremely wealthy must pay an unavoidable annual minimum tax.
- He proposes applying the tax to people with more than 100 million in wealth, with a floor based on wealth rather than taxable income so billionaires cannot avoid it by reporting little or no income.
- He uses examples such as Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk to argue that current tax systems legally allow billionaires to pay zero or very low income tax despite huge economic gains.
- The proposed minimum is 2% of wealth, calculated to make billionaires pay roughly the same effective tax rate as the broader population, though Zucman personally supports higher rates in some cases.
- The proposal was developed for Brazil’s 2024 G20 agenda and later passed France’s National Assembly in February 2025 before being blocked by the Senate.
Historical and International Momentum
- Zucman expects wealth taxes on the super rich to spread internationally, comparing them to the emergence of progressive income taxes in the early 20th century.
- He notes that the UK helped pioneer progressive income taxation with Lloyd George’s 1909 People’s Budget, followed by similar shifts in France and the United States.
- He argues that wealth taxation now reflects a similar public realization that existing systems are unfair and that the rich should pay their fair share.
UK Inequality and Democracy
- Zucman says the radical position is the current system, where the super rich can live in a parallel tax-free society despite wealth being socially created.
- He says new research across around 10 countries shows working and middle classes often pay 40 to 50% of income in taxes, while billionaires pay around 20 to 25%.
- Using the Sunday Times Rich List, he says the wealth of the richest roughly 200 UK families rose from about 5% of GDP in 1989 to about 25% recently.
- He argues that extreme wealth is especially dangerous because, unlike middle-class wealth, it becomes power over media, markets, politics, and public policy.
- He warns that wealth can create a feedback loop where wealth produces power, and power produces more wealth, threatening democratic equality.
Designing a Working Wealth Tax
- Zucman says past European wealth taxes often failed because they were badly designed with exemptions and deductions that allowed the richest people to avoid them.
- He argues a modern UK tax should start at a high threshold, such as more than 100 million pounds, but allow no exemptions or deductions.
- He says the migration threat is manageable because countries can continue taxing extremely wealthy former residents for a period, such as 5 or 10 years, if they became rich in that country.
- He points to the United States’ citizenship-based taxation as proof that countries can tax people beyond residence, though he views the US model as more extreme than needed.
Academic Support and Final Message
- Zucman rejects the claim that academics do not support wealth taxation, saying there is overwhelming support among economists and the wider public.
- He cites a July 2025 Le Monde op-ed signed by seven Nobel Prize winners supporting a 2% minimum wealth tax on the super rich, including action by France alone.
- He says the issue is fundamentally equality before the law: billionaires should not be able to pay less than nurses, teachers, or other ordinary workers.
- His final message is that one country should lead by example, showing that a wealth tax can raise revenue and inspire others to follow.
- For the UK, he estimates a 2% tax on super-rich wealth could raise about 15 billion pounds per year and argues the UK has a history of leading major tax and welfare reforms.
Actiepunten
- Students who want to study inequality should pursue it and help grow the field within academia.
- A country should lead by example by implementing a tax on the super rich to demonstrate that the policy works and can raise revenue.
- The UK political class should engage directly with academic evidence and experts on wealth taxation rather than dismissing the idea as unsupported.